A house divided against itself cannot stand?

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." -Abe Lincoln Agnostic



The Christian Church is divided into 38,000+ pieces according to the 2001 World Christian Encyclopedia...



If Christianity is the true religion why can't it make up it's mind?A house divided against itself cannot stand?
Thinker,

That is a great question. CHRIST'S CHURCH was "one" in the beginning (Acts 2). Then man got involved and he began to add things and take things from the original plan that was given. For instance, Paul had to speak with one church about the Jewish Converts who wanted to force Gentiles males to be cut in the manner that the Jewish children were (after their birth). These things were not found in the BIBLE and were not taught by the Apostles and were wrong. Those who "add to or take from GOD'S WORD" and make such changes in separating HIS' People will be judged accordingly by CHRIST on the Day of Judgment. I believe that those who are CHRIST'S will read, study, and obey what is written in the Holy Scriptures that were inspired writings. Have a great week!!

Thanks,

Eds

~~~

Muldah- YES!!

~~~

Paul,

Catholicism began about 300 AD.

~~~

.
Of course Abe Lincoln was speaking of the Civil War, not Christianity.



Say you're considering sailing ships: because there are many different kinds of ships, from steel-hulled battleships to sloops to row boats to catamarans, shall we decide that shipbuilders cannot make up their minds?



Let people find the religion that resonates in their hearts.A house divided against itself cannot stand?
God knows His own.







BTW "Honest" Abe plagiarized from Jesus



Mar 3:25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.



Luk 11:17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house [divided] against a house falleth.
Correction ... Protestantism is divided into thousands of unauthorized conflicting manmade denominations. The true Christian Church remains united in belief, united in teaching and united in worship throughout the world after 2,000 years, just as its founder Jesus Christ said it would.A house divided against itself cannot stand?
Jesus said it 1rst %26amp; some put a church b4 Jesus' word. Jesus founded Christianity not the Cc. Jesus directly taught Peter the truth that stands 4ever unchanged (so Peter tho fallible knew the real truth) 2 prepare him 2 head the church on Jesus' behalf starting with Israel while Jesus was alive ("the" Rock is Jesus not Peter {1 Cor 10:4} - Peter imitates Jesus but wasnt Jesus or replacing Jesus like the Cc claims the pope does [%26amp; his so-called infallible claims on the throne] - Neither Peter, Jesus nor His Apostles ever sat on an earthly throne [huge hint] %26amp; the 11 other Apostles [yes, Judas had 2 b replaced so the original 12 Pillars the church foundation is built on would remain intact in accordance with scripture - u can b Apostolic if ur teachings r correct but u never replace original Apostles] were killed off or died WITHIN the 1rst century [Peter wasnt a Roman bishop] - Christianity was illegal @ the time %26amp; the Bible shows corruption was already getting in2 some original churches).



Most original disciples were also killed off, died or forced in2 hiding by Romans/others. So there was no connection btwn Jesus' original followers %26amp; the Cc. In effect, the original church was wiped out %26amp; isolated pockets of true believers were greatly weakened - made it easier 4 those wanting 2 use the Christian label 4 other purposes 2 sow in their corruption (especially since most were illiterate @ that time - The Cc claims they didnt give out Bibles 4 over a 1000 yrs b/c ppl couldnt read so why didnt they teach ppl 2 read?).



Rest-assured neither Jesus or the Apostles authorized Apostolic succession 2 the Cc [the final 12 werent 2 b replaced - God's fixed order of all things Biblical] - the next so-called generation added more corrupt practices that became part of the core beliefs of the Cc about 313-325 AD with Constantine's support + more Pagan practices.



Its impossible 4 a church 2 know Jesus without knowing Jesus' actual Biblical instructions - absent in Cc teachings (the Cc didnt write any part of the NT [not a Cc text - NT was written in the 1rst century by Apostles {NT Gospels/letters preserved the truth 4 all ppl [purpose 4 it being written] not the Cc - God allowed the Cc 2 produce the Bible despite their wrong teachings like He allowed Romans 2 fulfill prophecy without their knowledge [happening again today]}.



God %26amp; Jesus already fully knew (God declared the end from the beginning) what was 2 b written in the NT, that is the truth is complete within its pages (%26amp; the NT proves the OT is true %26amp; the OT reinforces the truth of the NT [the 2 witnesses]). Cc possession wasnt until the 4th century] which contradicts their claims %26amp; God's will, 1 in truth %26amp; Spirit not rituals.



Sadly, the Cc made the same mistake many made, they didnt follow Jesus' Biblical instructions when they set up the Cc. 2 main lies r (which cancels out their other teachings - most of which rnt Biblical anyway [see below] - another false gospel among many %26amp; the real revisionist church history):



1. The CC claims 2 b the 1rst church %26amp; since they r the longest existing church, they r the only "official" church. Jesus' Apostles never named their church "catholic (not in the Bible nor in line with God's message that never changes)" nor did they ever practice Cc religious rituals. There was nearly a 240 yr gap btwn Jesus' original Apostle's church %26amp; the start of the organized Cc - so the Cc was never a part of or the true 1rst Christian Church (neither a label, title, name, its history, # of members, amount of time it existed or claims made about them (like persecution) proves anything - its whats practiced (with respect 2 the real Biblical truth) that makes it either the whole truth or a lie. Calling a dog god doesnt make it God. U can call anything anything - i.e Neither Jesus or Biblical prophets were muslims no matter what Islam claims).



2. Peter was never a pope nor was he or his fellow Apostles ever a member of the Cc (it isnt in the Bible = no apostolic succession) the use of the word pope is a Cc invention - the Bible instructs us not 2 go beyond whats written (I Cor 4:6; Rev 22:18-19). Peter wasnt a bishop of the Cc (he was dead nearly 240 yrs b4 the Cc became a church. Peter wouldnt call himself a pope or b a member of the Cc b/c calling 1self "holy" Father %26amp; other Cc teachings (no priesthood/rituals after Jesus) r abominations. Even the devil knows Jesus is the Son of God so 1 would b wise not 2 trust any church "authority" ahead of whats written in the Bible. Calling urself a Christian or saying u believe in Jesus doesnt make it true (recital of words means nothing).



No matter how much well-meaning ppl (religious or not) read the Bible they cant find Jesus Christ without going directly 2 Jesus thru His Biblical instructions (Jn 5:39; 10:1,7; 3:3,5). God outsmarted man - the Bible is the only 1 that cant b properly understood without Jesus (Jn 14:6; II Cor 3:14, Is 29:11-12 - If Jewish ppl cant pierce the veil over the OT without Jesus then all gentiles cant). Its why theres many interpretations %26amp; many thinking its fairy tales (Jesus came with the sword of division).



The Bible severely warns us not 2 trust humans, not even ourselves, clergy/churches/scholars (Jer 10:2-5,23; Is 2:22; Job 12:11; Prov 14:12; Acts 17:11). So carefully think over what I say. Dont just believe/dismiss what I write. It might save u from making the same mistake many made, getting caught up in religious beliefs having nothing 2 do with knowing God (poisoned tree %26amp; its fruit). I.e. Many claim God is love %26amp; love ur neighbor but they dont know what God's actual definition/application of love is.



Other Cc wrongs:



Mass (not in the Bible) is full of non-biblical rituals, Statues (God isnt in2 dead things - non-living things can't help/save u - praying 2 them is an abomination), the Rosary %26amp; beads, mother Mary (virgin 2 Jesus' birth) as interceder (Jesus is the only way 2 God - not His Apostles/disciples - Jn 14:6; 5:39; 10:1,7; Acts 4:12; IS 1 - Mary was a sinner %26amp; had children after Jesus - Mt 12:46-50), candles, incense, the cross (its more a symbol of the curse rather than Jesus %26amp; 4 the same reasoning against statues), making the sign of the cross, stations of the cross, pope's/other leader's garb they wear, ring, confirmation, the Catholic creed/other Cc documents, raising dead/ppl 2 the status of "saint" (only God %26amp; Jesus have authority 2 do this), priesthood, monks, nuns, purgatory, catechism, devotionals, sacraments, holy eucharist, penance, traditional/repetitive type prayers/chants %26amp; many other things they do rnt in Bible (false teachings cancel out any truth u hv).



Its b/c religion is about man %26amp; what he likes, not what Jesus mandated us 2 do 2 know Him. The result is few will end up saved thru most of them (no1 can save themselves by their own initiative nor will good deeds save u - theres no good in any man - Rom 1:23). 1 must b very careful not 2 get sucked in or going 2 various denominations (especially if u dont know much about whats actually written in the Bible) as u can only add 2 any confusion u hv.



Just b/c religions made many fatal mistakes doesnt mean God doesnt know what He's doing. Many miss this: Jesus is the only 1 in history who said that no1 can find our real God except thru Jesus (Jn 14:6; 5:39; 10:1,7; Acts 4:11). This means "the" truth was complete %26amp; finished thru what Jesus did. So, any so-called new teaching/other religious beliefs r invalid %26amp; cant lead u 2 God. The truth is either the whole truth or its a lie. The truth is the absence of any lie. Either Jesus told the whole truth or He's a false prophet, among many, who should b disregarded. This would also mean that God must not exist either (He either knows what He's doing or He cant b God).



Evidence God knows all: Jesus couldnt hv done nor said what He did unless He fully knew the entire OT (the NT didnt exist @ the time of Jesus - the only way Jesus couldve known the whole OT is if God sent Him). The Apostles couldnt write the NT unless Jesus allowed them 2 know %26amp; remember what He did (Lk 24:25-27,45). Only God could cause it.



A church thats very serious about finding the Biblical truth, understands what being Born Anew is about, might be able 2 help u but no1 can save u except Jesus (Jn 3:1-14 - note: Nicodemus was very religious but Jesus flat out told him he had missed the 1rst most important step, that he must b Born Anew or no matter how religious or good he thought he is he couldn't go 2 Heaven (Jn 3:3,5; Jn 14:6; Acts 4:12). No1 can live without breaking God's Law = sin which separates us from God (why we need 2 b Born Anew the right way).



A teaching can hv a truth but the action taken superficial/false - The Cc like the Pharisees (the same setup) know how 2 clean the outside of the cup but dont understand how the inside is 2 b cleaned thru Jesus' actual message. The fact that the Cc/other religions retain an altar @ the center of their religious practices is 1 sure sign of their being about religious rituals not the truth that stands 4ever unchanged.



voyc4rmwldrns
that's because everyone edits it to suit their own desires. Why follow a book at all if you don't at least use the initial one you supposedly believe in. never made any sense to me.
These are shattered times in this shattered territory.